What makes you think you are a slave?

topic posted Mon, June 18, 2007 - 5:01 PM by 
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Okay, i'll start a thread to see what i can stir up. First question is the subject.

What is it about yourself that makes you believe you are a slave that that you want to become one?


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  • Re: What makes you think you are a slave?

    Tue, June 19, 2007 - 3:07 AM
    me personally, i think it would be fun to role play being one, say, on the weekends...

    errr... i hope you don't think that makes me a wishy washy fluffy poser or anything?

    lol.

    what about it? wellllll.... thats pretty much down to i don't really like human modes of relating, and, i can't
    seem to talk anybody into even as much as comprehending the type of relationship i'd like to have.

    so the role playing game simplifies everything, puts me in a poistion of just doing whatever somebody asks,
    and thus makes it interesting enough to me not to be boring.

    i don't think i would have any interest at all had i not had this relationship when i was 17 (and another when i was 19
    that sprang off from the first one) with this girl who was into extreme pony play and etc.
    Its sort of addictive in a way... once you start its hard to go back to mundanity.

    In both of the relationships i had allready, i was the top, ("master")which, i am not that well suited for psychologically...

  • Re: What makes you think you are a slave?

    Thu, August 16, 2007 - 8:46 AM
    That question is better answered by a Master or my Ma'am. What i find interesting is the number of blog posts by kelly. Yes, i have a few but i find most of my time is focused up on my owner.
    • Re: What makes you think you are a slave?

      Thu, August 16, 2007 - 3:07 PM
      We all have different things that we are responsible for within our relationship. I have, in the past, been told to do various things that made it look like, to others, that I was not in service; in fact many times people thought we were either both Masters or even at times that he was in service to me. In fact, what I was doing very much had to do with my service to him. Knowing Master M and kelly as I do, I have no doubt that part of her service to him is to make sure lists stay active if they are on them or if one of them moderate it.

      I always find it interesting the various ways M/s can look. I have one friend who says her duty is to earn a paycheck. I have another who is purely a companion slave -- anything the Master enjoys, they accompany. I, on the other hand, generally help someone achieve specific goals.

      I like to think that slaves/property/submissives are a reflection of their Master. Kelly looks, to me, like she is a very engaging individual. I just wish they could have run for NW Master/slave this year!
      • Re: What makes you think you are a slave?

        Thu, August 16, 2007 - 3:24 PM
        You have that right Kyrana. I don't have much time to keep up with Tribe but I think it's a great communication tool as long as people keep posting. I hate to see a bunch of dead Tribes and I think keeping things going is a great use of kelly's loquaciousness and outgoing personality. She certainly doesn't post at the expense of any other tasks I assign her.

        There are other things she does in service to me that occasionally elicit the 'slavelier than thou' sort of post--I chalk it up to inexperience.
    • Re: What makes you think you are a slave?

      Thu, August 16, 2007 - 5:41 PM
      slavemichael, i'd like to point out that you recently responded to 3 threads that i started in this and the Masters and slaves tribe (which MasterM moderates and i try to help keep it going for him.) One was started 5/21 having the last post on 5/27 until you answered yesterday. This particular thread i started on 6/18 with the last post on 6/19 until it was brought to the top again just today.

      All threads have dates and times and perhaps it looks like i am spending my whole day posting to tribe when actually there are threads from months ago and yup...i do like to get new subjects going when the tribes start to go to sleep.


      One of the huge benefits of a tool like tribe is that it gives us all a chance to talk AND see how others that are in similar lifestyles do their thing. This particular tribe is one where those that are new as slaves can get information/advice from those that are currently in or have been in M/s relationships.

      And to defend myself it should be no surprise that "most" of my time IS focused on my Master but there are also other times when i am allowed to do my own thing.

      slave kelly


      • Re: What makes you think you are a slave?

        Sun, August 19, 2007 - 6:34 PM
        i am sorry if i misunderstood the opening sentence that says something about "stirring things up". i did not know that others couldn't help stir the pot. Your observation is correct that i do write things but please understand that i am not 24/7. i am at the disposal of Ms. August, sometimes She needs or wishes me in her presence. At other times She wishes Her space and at that time i have permission to blog Tribe. Please understand that the reason i responded to your threads is that they are provocative that allows a number of different answers that each being correct. Intellegence, that is something that should be rewarded in anyone, in a slave it stands out.
        slavemichael
  • Re: What makes you think you are a slave?

    Thu, August 16, 2007 - 1:17 PM
    because i am ownded by my Master. i'm most happy in a power exchange relationship in which the lines are clearly drawn and i know which side i firmly reside. i'm happy to know that my life is controlled by the one i love and that i am His property.
  • Re: What makes you think you are a slave?

    Thu, August 16, 2007 - 8:08 PM
    I guess I never answered the question...

    I felt deep inside when I first came into the community that I was a slave. I also thought it was lofty of me to think so, being so new in the community, being so new in leather, but I was afraid, too. I was, and still struggle with, the thought of someone seeing me as vulnerable. It is probably my biggest struggle.

    I never seemed to match up with the definition of slave people gave me, so I fessed up to few people that I identified as slave. I must be wrong.... no one really thought of me as one, so therefore I couldn't claim it. I felt very different -- I didn't quite fit any of the molds.

    One day, while running and event, I took an hour or so to go to a class taught by Master Steve Sampson. In it I felt like he had cut me open and laid me bare... that he had read my secret thoughts for everyone sitting there. And he said that I was a slave. He said that was what I was supposed to be like. It was then I realized I *was* a slave, I *am* a slave, I didn't fit everyones definition, but I fit SOMEONES definition. It was then I decided to be more forgiving with myself. Since I no longer am in service I usually say I identify as a slave.

    So, for me, it is a feeling deep in my gut, in the very fiber of my being.

    It isn't something I do.
    It isn't something I want to be.
    It is something I am.
    • Re: What makes you think you are a slave?

      Fri, August 17, 2007 - 12:10 AM
      Kyrana,

      you've spoken to my heart. i find that being a slave is not all that i am, and that conflicted me for a while. i also have had many people in my life who either don't see the slave in me or don't bring it forward. as much as they've said it - as much as i feared there was a grain of truth in that - i have always known that it is what i am, my essence.... or one of my essences.

      thank you for your eloquence.

      auburn
      • Re: What makes you think you are a slave?

        Fri, August 17, 2007 - 9:13 AM
        Kyrana

        You put into words what I had been trying to express. I look forward to meeting and talking with you at the Master's Den

        I also second the wish that Master M and slave kelly had run again. But there's always next year. :-)
  • Re: What makes you think you are a slave?

    Fri, August 17, 2007 - 1:09 PM
    all my life i have gotten a twinge when ever i was at the mercy of another. i didnt know it at the time but as i grew older i realized i enjoyed being subserviant to others. i remember when i was younger i went to see the movie Calligula and afterwards got a ride from a couple who also saw it. as we discussed the movie they expressed how awesome it would have been to be a roman citizen, i on the other hand expressed the wish to be one of the roman slaves... needless to say that night i got my wish
  • Re: What makes you think you are a slave?

    Sun, August 26, 2007 - 11:18 PM
    when this slave first got into this lifestyle and heard the word "slave" it stated not me, howevery everyone aorund it all saw a slave at heart, adn Master C got me to do some reading and studies on the subject, and made this one take a close look at this oen's past lie and all of the stuff it had done in it's life.
    All of the job this one every done for in service to others, and always enjoyed that, and once the studies wa on the way, the true feeling that been a slave was right and that the heart had always known , but the brain just need a jump start. it was licky to meet Master C who allow this one to coem to understand what was truely in this one's heart that other saw.
    Reaching out and in brassing oneslef had lefted the weight from this one's shoulders, and it lives in the slave quarters of Master C, and very ahppy to be in service to it's Master

    slave Eric
    Property of Master C
  • Re: What makes you think you are a slave?

    Sun, September 2, 2007 - 8:22 AM
    For me, I enjoy being a service slave and CFNM. Over the last few years, I would post on Craigslist that I was available to serve a femdom. And even though I am in Fremont, I would travel to meet the lady and perform whatever it was she wanted.

    In the beginning it was great. The ladies had specific things in mind for me to do when I arrived: clean her place, give her a massage, etc.

    But lately, I had a run of bad luck with ladies not holding up their end of the agreement. For example one lady was stoned and was looking for NSA. So I left. Another lady wanted companionship while her BF was gone. Um, sorry not for me.

    But if a situation develops in the future where I can serve a fem dom, I will do it. But for now, I have moved more into a Cuckold lifestyle, but that is beyond the scope of this question, so I will end my comments here.

    Alan
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    Re: What makes you think you are a slave?

    Sun, September 2, 2007 - 3:23 PM
    I think I have a strange M/s relationship. Ultimately, I can put my foot down at any time about anything I choose, I just would rather he made all of the day to day decisions. A friend of his commented that he's the figurehead, but I'm the power behind the throne. I just don't excercise my power.
    I do truly enjoy knowing that my Master will care for me and tell me how I can best serve him, though...
  • Re: What makes you think you are a slave?

    Thu, September 13, 2007 - 4:27 PM
    kelly;

    slaves have told Me they know they are slaves because they can FEEL it inside. I believe this to be the slaveheart discussed by SlaveMaster on His "www.bornslaves.com" web site.

    If you have slaveheart and know what you are, then you can honestly ignore those "But you're not a REAL slave!" people--they are being mean, ignorant, or both!

    I certainly feel Ownerheart! And some within the Ms community tried to make Me feel I was inadequate or a poseur. They failed with Me; they should fail with you too.

    My tuppence,
    Slave Owner Dave
  • Re: What makes you think you are a slave?

    Fri, November 23, 2007 - 3:39 PM
    I'm not.

    Or at least, I don't think I am.

    But there are some things about how I now understand slavery that do speak very loudly to me, such that I think this is really how I was "trained" that D/s is, the parts that I value. Hearing Master Skip Chasey talk about how he thinks the best slaves are actually dominant and not submissive really tweaked my brain in particular, and I've been pondering ever since...

    So, I guess that what I really am is still exploring, still trying to figure out how I really fit in the whole BDSM universe. The only thing I really know for certain is I live *somewhere* on the right side of the slash.
  • Re: What makes you think you are a slave?

    Fri, November 23, 2007 - 4:42 PM
    For me it is the feeling of relief at not having to be in control, of the security and the feeling of protections and safety. That feeling of surrendering that allows the knot in my stomach that is there when I am not with Sir, it goes away within hours of being with him. We have a LDR, and I only see him about every 2 months for a week or two at a time...So the time we have is important and carries me from visit to visit.

    There is so much more..but so much of it is hard to put into words..but that feeling of pleasure by releasing and being obedient..that is how I know.
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    Re: What makes you think you are a slave?

    Tue, November 27, 2007 - 8:43 AM
    Oh gosh, this is a hard one to put into words. i've been thinking about it a while and haven't come up with anything profound, so i'll just post whats in my mind as of now. :)

    i need to be in a situation were there is order, structure and a definate leader. This seems to be in all situations. If there isn't one, i will step up and take that position. Now, does that make me dominant? i was baffled by that for years. Now i can say no, it makes "me" a slave. When i know that there is someone in control, someone who is calm and assertive -i feel like the dog wisperer!- that is when i am the happiest, the most grounded.

    i am my Masters slave. i am what he wants and how he wants me.



    Thats about it
  • Re: What makes you think you are a slave?

    Mon, February 25, 2008 - 8:05 AM
    For me slavery is the closeness of being owned by someone. I enjoy being told what to wear, and what to do, and even how to perform sex on someone. As a bi woman, I have served both Dom's, Domme's and couples. In my own heart I feel that all women were meant to serve! Don't crucify me on this belief Domme's!

    I have served several Domme'e who sometimes switch, which makes me feel that they too desire to be controlled in a way. Since I was a little girl i always liked it when daddy TOLD me to bring hiom something. He ORDERED mom and I around like we were his toys. Mother was an independent woman - but dad always had the final word.

    As I grew up and matured I read many books about sexual submission, pain, and the association of mixed pleasures. I can only self analise myself by saying _ I am a slave! Personally I don't see the difference between a slave or a submissive, although some of us would prefer to be called submissives.
    • Re: What makes you think you are a slave?

      Sat, March 15, 2008 - 12:44 AM
      When I first started exploring my slave self (just a few months ago), oh my gosh!, what a gigantic palace of pleasure and comfort! So wonderful to do as I'm told, to offer myself completely and explicitly, to feel my lover's kind determination to make me completely his. I saw his eager enthusiasm. (He's also completely new to the scene.) He ordered books, bought toys, experimented. We rode on an incredible high of new love, potent power exchange, and mutual trust.

      Our creativity poured out. Poetry, songs, drawings, stories, videos. Ropes, leather, clamps, blindfolds and whips. In my sleep, my mind would try to get UNDER my submission to a deeper submission. I was headed down, down, down.

      Yet some part of me has always been anxious about losing myself, about giving myself away, losing my competence (especially for the sake of being a responsible mom for my 18-year-old son) and now I'm not sure what I want. I can't imagine not being a slave at least some of the time, yet I can't see how to make it work. Maybe it's just because of my inexperienced partner, who's not sure how much of a slave he wants. He wants it, but he doesn't want it. It's confusing for me! I'm hoping we'll settle down into some mutually satisfying resting place.

      I'm impressed by how well the slaves/subs in this tribe can talk about themselves without getting mixed up and confused. How do you remember who you are? Is your sense of self intact?

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